Retirement of the workhorses... replied by gaoxingdcf07 @ Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:21:39 +0800

gaoxingdcf07 — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:21:39 +0800

Originally posted by 16/f/lonely:

My friends were joking, we should keep the MGBs as RSN tug-boats, these way, we don't have to wait for PSA tugs everytime we sail.

PSA tugs more powerful...

if want to convert,muz spent $$$$,which SAF is not really wanting to do that...

Retirement of the workhorses... replied by 16/f/lonely @ Tue, 24 Jun 2008 19:51:49 +0800

16/f/lonely — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 19:51:49 +0800

My friends were joking, we should keep the MGBs as RSN tug-boats, these way, we don't have to wait for PSA tugs everytime we sail.

Retirement of the workhorses... replied by Joe Black @ Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:35:37 +0800

Joe Black — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:35:37 +0800

Sell the MGB hulls to the Phillippines I say.

Build a new class of Stealth Covettes

Retirement of the workhorses... replied by gaoxingdcf07 @ Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:27:37 +0800

gaoxingdcf07 — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:27:37 +0800

Keep the MGBs so that when in war,can take out use again

like the 3 Tonners,although they are replaced by 5 Tonners,they are being kept,so that one day when got war,still can ferry troops that y u still see SAF train its drivers on the old Land Rover and the Fiat 3 Tonner..

Retirement of the workhorses... replied by SBS7484P @ Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:53:01 +0800

SBS7484P — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:53:01 +0800

Originally posted by Atobe:

Wednesday CNA reported that one RSAF Super Puma had crashed when taking off, fortunately no one was injured during this accident.

With the Super Puma operating since 1985, is it not time also to retire this 20 year old workhorses in the RSAF ?

thats older than the B10M Mk2's!!!

to think that these things FLY and theyre still using em..

Retirement of the workhorses... replied by CM06 @ Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:44:43 +0800

CM06 — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:44:43 +0800

EC-725, AW 101(with rolls royce engines, Ch-47F

Retirement of the workhorses... replied by Bionic Animals @ Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:31:04 +0800

Bionic Animals — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:31:04 +0800

Anything better on offer or only blackhawks?

Retirement of the workhorses... replied by wonderamazement @ Sat, 24 May 2008 18:23:08 +0800

wonderamazement — Sat, 24 May 2008 18:23:08 +0800

time for some blackhawks.

Retirement of the workhorses... replied by Atobe @ Sat, 24 May 2008 16:23:41 +0800

Atobe — Sat, 24 May 2008 16:23:41 +0800

Wednesday CNA reported that one RSAF Super Puma had crashed when taking off, fortunately no one was injured during this accident.

With the Super Puma operating since 1985, is it not time also to retire this 20 year old workhorses in the RSAF ?

Retirement of the workhorses... replied by SpecOps87 @ Fri, 23 May 2008 09:59:12 +0800

SpecOps87 — Fri, 23 May 2008 09:59:12 +0800

I say sell it to a third party Navy and not give it to them...look at how much stuff we've given to Indon and yet they still kpkb.

Retirement of the workhorses... replied by Bionic Animals @ Wed, 21 May 2008 18:38:18 +0800

Bionic Animals — Wed, 21 May 2008 18:38:18 +0800

If not worth to mothball, then the ships should be scrapped immediately and the metal parts sold as scraps since scrap metals are selling for a good price, unless some other friendly navies wants to buy some 'grand old ladies'.

Retirement of the workhorses... replied by OldBird69 @ Wed, 21 May 2008 09:27:04 +0800

OldBird69 — Wed, 21 May 2008 09:27:04 +0800

I was also going to suggest mothballing the MGBs. But technology can surpass mothballed ships rendering them obsolete and the mothballing futile. It seems the only ships I know to be brought out of mothball and called back into service were the Iowa class Battleships of USN. Even then, with the exception of USS New Jersey, whcih was re-activated and mothballed several times, USS Missouri, Iowa, Wisconsin each only served <10 years and then were either scrapped or turned into memorials.

Retirement of the workhorses... replied by Bionic Animals @ Mon, 19 May 2008 18:23:49 +0800

Bionic Animals — Mon, 19 May 2008 18:23:49 +0800

A lot of the bigger navies actually 'mothball' their older ships for emergency use in future or in time of a conflict. You will never know when the MGBs will come in handy.

On the other hand, mothballing may cause us a lot more money than buying new ships. Hey, how much are the 'Visby' stealth corvettes going to cost?

Retirement of the workhorses... replied by LRRP @ Mon, 19 May 2008 16:10:46 +0800

LRRP — Mon, 19 May 2008 16:10:46 +0800

Full article here:

http://combat-missions.com/forums/index.php?topic=89.msg102#new

Retirement of the workhorses... replied by Sepecat @ Mon, 19 May 2008 10:25:02 +0800

Sepecat — Mon, 19 May 2008 10:25:02 +0800

Same article mentions new SH70 to be armed with Penguin. That's great !

Retirement of the workhorses... replied by lionnoisy @ Thu, 15 May 2008 21:26:25 +0800

lionnoisy — Thu, 15 May 2008 21:26:25 +0800

read today 15 .05.2008 long essay by David Boey

some intersting info eg EW in the boats etc

pl post the whole essay here.

2.http://news.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne+News/Singapore/Story/A1Story20080514-65143.html

S'pore navy retires pioneer batch of missile gunboats   

The Republic of Singapore Navy (RSN) has retired six of her pioneer Missile Gunboats (MGBs) after 33 years of service, a milestone marking the fleet's transition to a 3rd generation force.

The RSS Sea Wolf, RSS Sea Lion, RSS Sea Tiger, RSS Sea Hawk and RSS Sea Scorpion were decommissioned yesterday evening in a ceremony at Changi Naval Base, said a news release by the Ministry of Defence (MINDEF).

Commissioned in the early 1970s, the vessels led developments in naval strike warfare and carried out maritime surveillance, patrol and escort operations for over three decades.

 

The RSS Sea Wolf, in particular, heralded the RSN's entry into the missile age by becoming the first ship in the region to successfully fire an anti-ship missile.

Over 5,600 men and women have served onboard the MGBs, including Minister for Defence Teo Chee Hean, and Senior Minister of State for Education & Information, Communications and the Arts, Rear-Admiral (RADM) (NS) Lui Tuck Yew.
"The MGBs' achievements are testimony to the fighting spirit, camaraderie and professionalism of the men and women who have served on these ships. This spirit will continue to live in the RSN as it transforms into the 3rd Generation navy," said Chief of Navy RADM Chew Men Leong, who officiated the event.

New FORMIDABLE-class Stealth Frigates will replace the MGBs in the 185 Squadron - state-of-the-art combat ships which are able to perform a wide spectrum of missions, and handle surface, air and underwater threats.

Retirement of the workhorses... replied by Bionic Animals @ Thu, 15 May 2008 16:34:15 +0800

Bionic Animals — Thu, 15 May 2008 16:34:15 +0800

I rather donate to the Phillippines. They are fighting an insurgency over there. The other 'big brothers' can buy their own.

Retirement of the workhorses... replied by 16/f/lonely @ Thu, 15 May 2008 16:22:16 +0800

16/f/lonely — Thu, 15 May 2008 16:22:16 +0800

Originally posted by spencer99:

http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/6547/mgb.html

The RSS DRAGON was not listed somehow? overlooked by jounarlist?

As usual.

Sea Wolf and Sea Dragon were the last MGBs to stop operations, both being quite active till early Apr.

Retirement of the workhorses... replied by spencer99 @ Thu, 15 May 2008 02:37:03 +0800

spencer99 — Thu, 15 May 2008 02:37:03 +0800

http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/6547/mgb.html

The RSS DRAGON was not listed somehow? overlooked by jounarlist?

Retirement of the workhorses... replied by spencer99 @ Thu, 15 May 2008 02:34:56 +0800

spencer99 — Thu, 15 May 2008 02:34:56 +0800

How come only 5 MGBs listed on the news? I thought there are 6 MGBs?? Was the sixth MGB retired earlier? To provide manning for the new FFG?

RSS Sea Wolf

RSS Sea Lion

RSS Sea Tiger

RSS Sea Hawk

RSS Sea Scorpion

Retirement of the workhorses... replied by spencer99 @ Thu, 15 May 2008 02:28:22 +0800

spencer99 — Thu, 15 May 2008 02:28:22 +0800

hmm... actually if you remove all the sensitive electronics, can probably sell to our neighbours? like Indonesia or Philippines?

Retirement of the workhorses... replied by wonderamazement @ Wed, 14 May 2008 23:50:20 +0800

wonderamazement — Wed, 14 May 2008 23:50:20 +0800

scrapyard?

Retirement of the workhorses... replied by arball @ Wed, 14 May 2008 23:21:18 +0800

arball — Wed, 14 May 2008 23:21:18 +0800

heard the navy retired some gunboats recently, anyone have the news article? perhaps lionnoisy can post here.... just wonder where are they going next?

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