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Originally posted by Nelstar:
Chinese are Chinese. Mainland, offshore island, downtown, or whatsoever, you are still Chinese.Chinese nationals are still Chinese. Singaporean Chinese are still Chinese.
If you understand them better, you will learn to accept the cultural differences. (Note: It's like Singapore in the 60s-70s. Chinese speak Angmo is not acceptable.. lol)
Doubt so. Same blood, same genes, different cultural socialisation due to environment etc.
It's a fairly elementary case of why cultures and social behavior of diaspora groups diverge from their ethnocultural homeland.
Well, they have to get with the system here as they are the "new blood". Sure, let's have a two way process, but it'll be equally daft to have existing populations being given the burden to adapt to the newcomers, no?
Edited by LazerLordz 05 Dec `08, 10:02PM
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Originally posted by skythewood:
wow, that's a very diverse set of people. you listed. don't think the majority of people can learn all those languages. most people will just fall back on the majority and stereotypes since they can't cater to everyone. in singapore, the stereotypes will be chinese looking is chinese, and speaks mandarin, malay looking is malay and speaks malay, indian looking is indian and speaks tamil. if you see a chinese looking guy, 9 out of ten times he is a chinese, and not a ABC, peranakan or whatever.I'm speaking from the pov of a Peranakan. Sometimes, it just gets tiring when people ask you for all sorts of lame reasons.
But you have a point about the whole 9 out of 10 bit. But I'd give it a 7 out of 10.
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Originally posted by thehappybunny:
when i was working in swissotel, there was this angmoh in the lift blabbering on an on in singlish, as if he very proud of it, started making a few comments at my friends and i
and he end of with "you do know im a first class cheebye right?"
we all really dunno what to say ...
Hehe, what a laugh.
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Originally posted by skythewood:
hhmmmm, so gahmen rebate for foreign workers taking language course? to learn a new language is not that easy, so how long should the course run?
well, it's a suggestion. SDF exists, and I feel that it should incorporate basic language skills. (Perhaps they do, could anyone clarify) I think a 1-2 months course in simple english phrases relevant to the industry would do the trick?
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Originally posted by FireIce:
入乡就得随俗
but how many employers bother about teaching and getting the staff into 状况 to serve singaporeans and visitors?
and how many of these foreign workers are willing and able to learn our culture in such a short time?
to them, they oni think abt the $$
the $ to hire 1 SGrean = x number of imports
and can push the imports to work for lower $, longer hours
so wu hua
cannot work, not happy, change another one
now is so easy to get these pplIf the employers won't teach, the market will do so. Fair game for all.
Some fast learners have picked up things like Singlish phrases for drinks and food because they realise it is to their advantage to learn, and be able to work better and perhaps be more productive, hence earn more.
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Originally posted by TehJarVu:
yeah im here
btw i know eng, chi (both A1), fluent in hokkien, cantonese and i know Japanese and Vietnamese. i also happn to have a PhD.
That's great.
You see, there are people who might not value knowledge of languages. Yet, these could be the same people who are pretty chauvinistic about expecting all Chinese-looking people to know Mandarin without knowing the culturally specific background of each individual person, who could be either Peranakan, Tionghoa or ABC.
Edited by LazerLordz 01 Dec `08, 11:33PM
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Originally posted by gunner77:
its good to learn alot of language coz language is very useful
no matter where u go, u can apply it.
Yes, but there will always be people who insist that by virtue of your skin, you should be able to speak a language.
That is not something that should be encouraged. Not everyone is linguistically inclined.
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Originally posted by TehJarVu:
Chinese dunno Mandarin, can only speak English is a not called a snob
is called 忘祖忘宗, low competency, a monolingual persononly top students take Eng and Chi as first language
nvr mind
不用教你太多
世界上多一点笨的人也好
我们不用太辛苦Gimme a Chinese who can be fluent in English and his/her dialect then I'll say that they're true to their roots. Mandarin's for convenience sake only.
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Originally posted by skythewood:
if they are like construction site workers, let them be. but if they work in the service sector and can't speak english, the employer either has a very unique business plan or is just plain stupid.
Precisely. I am talking about employees in the service industry.
Hell, I see lots of stupid shopowners these days. Not sure if they'll even last a WY with their people management skills.
Edited by LazerLordz 01 Dec `08, 10:42PM
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